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02/17/2009 05:15 PM House ECON. DEV., TRADE & TOURISM


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05:18:00 PM Alaska Housing Finance Corporation: Federal Funding for Distressed Mortgages and the Future Strength of the Alaska Real Estate Market
06:35:25 PM Adjourn
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+ Alaska Housing Finance Corporation: TELECONFERENCED
Guest Speakers: Bryan Butcher, Director,
Government Relations & Public Affairs
& Dan Fauske, CEO/Executive Director
Overview: Alaska's real estate market,
Federal funding for distressed mortgages
and the future strength of the Alaska
real estate market
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
 HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, INTERNATIONAL                                                               
                       TRADE AND TOURISM                                                                                      
                       February 17, 2009                                                                                        
                           5:17 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jay Ramras, Chair                                                                                                
Representative Mike Chenault                                                                                                    
Representative Kyle Johansen                                                                                                    
Representative Chris Tuck                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nancy Dahlstrom                                                                                                  
Representative Mark Neuman                                                                                                      
Representative Mike Doogan                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
OTHER MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
Senator Hollis French                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALASKA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION:  FEDERAL FUNDING FOR                                                                        
DISTRESSED MORTGAGES AND THE FUTURE STRENGTH OF THE ALASKA REAL                                                                 
ESTATE MARKET                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DAN FAUSKE, Chief Executive Officer/Executive Director                                                                          
Alaska Housing Finance Corporation (AHFC)                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Introduced a PowerPoint presentation -                                                                   
Alaska's Housing Market 2009.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PAUL KAPANSKY, Director                                                                                                         
Mortgage Operations                                                                                                             
Alaska Housing Finance Corporation (AHFC)                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the presentation                                                               
by Alaska Housing Finance Corporation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN BUTCHER, Director                                                                                                         
Governmental Relations & Public Affairs                                                                                         
Executive Office                                                                                                                
Alaska Housing Finance Corporation (AHFC)                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Answered questions during  the presentation                                                             
by Alaska Housing Finance Corporation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
JOE DUBLER, Chief Financial Officer/Finance Director                                                                            
Alaska Housing Finance Corporation (AHFC)                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Answered questions during  the presentation                                                             
by Alaska Housing Finance Corporation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:17:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR JAY RAMRAS  called the House Special  Committee on Economic                                                             
Development, International Trade and  Tourism meeting to order at                                                               
5:17  p.m.   Present at  the call  to order  were Representatives                                                               
Chenault, Johansen,  and Ramras.  Representative  Tuck arrived as                                                               
the  meeting was  in progress.   Also  in attendance  was Senator                                                               
French.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:18:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^ALASKA  HOUSING  FINANCE  CORPORATION:     FEDERAL  FUNDING  FOR                                                             
DISTRESSED MORTGAGES AND  THE FUTURE STRENGTH OF  THE ALASKA REAL                                                             
ESTATE MARKET                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
a presentation  by Alaska Housing  Finance Corporation:   Federal                                                               
Funding for Distressed  Mortgages and the Future  Strength of the                                                               
Alaska Real Estate Market.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:18:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS  invited  the  representatives  of  Alaska  Housing                                                               
Finance  Corporation  (AHFC)  to   begin  their  presentation  on                                                               
Alaska's real estate market.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:19:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN  FAUSKE, Chief  Executive Officer/Executive  Director, Alaska                                                               
Housing  Finance Corporation,  informed  the  committee that  the                                                               
presentation  would include  issues  with the  housing market  in                                                               
Alaska  and  national  issues  affecting  the  state.    Slide  2                                                               
indicated that  interest rates are  historically low,  prices are                                                               
stable, new  construction is extremely  low, and  contractors are                                                               
busy  with  remodeling.   He  spoke  of  the real  estate  market                                                               
problems in  the Lower  48 such  as the  collapse of  the housing                                                               
market, loss  of jobs,  excessive speculation,  and neighborhoods                                                               
devastated by foreclosures.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:21:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS welcomed Senator French.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:21:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FAUST  recalled in the  early '90s warnings about  loans sold                                                               
to the Federal  Home Loan Mortgage Corp. (FHLMC)  and the Federal                                                               
National    Mortgage    Association    (FNMA)    were    ignored.                                                               
Unfortunately,  the market  ran  amok  with speculative  mortgage                                                               
backed  securities.    Some  in  the  state  encouraged  AHFC  to                                                               
speculate, but it  did not.  Mr. Faust explained  that Alaska has                                                               
a small proportion  of adjustable rate mortgages  (ARMS), a small                                                               
lending community that did not  participate in riskier loans, and                                                               
there  was  minimal speculative  development  or  buying; thus  a                                                               
continued moderate  growth in the  economy is expected.   Slide 5                                                               
indicated   that  in   the  third   quarter  of   2008,  Alaska's                                                               
delinquency rate  was 2.66 percent -  the lowest in the  nation -                                                               
and  AHFC's delinquency  rate was  2.29  percent.   Historically,                                                               
Alaska's highest delinquency  rate of 5.9 percent  was reached in                                                               
2000 and  2001.  Furthermore,  Alaska ranks 47th  in foreclosures                                                               
at  1.64  percent,  nearly  1/3  the  national  average  of  5.17                                                               
percent.  Slide 7 indicated that  the market is cooling; the 2008                                                               
end-of-year number of  homes for sale in Anchorage  is much lower                                                               
than in  the '90s  and after  the hot period  from 1999  to 2005.                                                               
Mr. Faust  opined today's  more moderate pace  is a  little below                                                               
normal.  He  listed average sales prices for  homes in Anchorage,                                                               
Mat-Su, Fairbanks,  Kenai, and Kodiak,  and noted that  there has                                                               
been a steady and predictable increase in prices.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:26:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS related  comments from an appraiser who  said that a                                                               
home in Anchorage cost $100,000  more than in Fairbanks, but that                                                               
the cost of  living in both cities  was close.  He  asked what an                                                               
additional $100,000 in mortgage costs represents.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:27:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAUL  KAPANSKY,  Director,  Mortgage Operations,  Alaska  Housing                                                               
Finance   Corporation,  estimated   principal  and   interest  on                                                               
$100,000 at 5 percent interest  would cost approximately $600 per                                                               
month.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:27:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS compared the cost of living in several regions.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:28:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FAUST   clarified  that  the  numbers   presented  are  from                                                               
September 2008,  and do not  reflect some recent events,  such as                                                               
the  increase in  rates by  ENSTAR  Natural Gas  Company.   Also,                                                               
there is some alarm about the  Fairbanks area and the high energy                                                               
costs there  this winter.   Slide 10 indicated sales  activity in                                                               
the  statewide  housing market  was  down  in Anchorage,  Mat-Su,                                                               
Fairbanks, Kenai, and Kodiak.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:30:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS asked about the Juneau market.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:30:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FAUST advised that the  market in Juneau is always different,                                                               
partly because much of the land  is owned by the City and Borough                                                               
of  Juneau (CBJ),  and there  is a  limited amount  of affordable                                                               
housing.  Vacancy numbers are also low.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KAPANSKY   added  that  the   overall  trend  has   been  an                                                               
appreciation in properties.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:32:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS asked about the market in Ketchikan.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:32:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KAPANSKY offered  it is a stable market, with  some good buys                                                               
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:32:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FAUST  observed Ketchikan  has  survived  some tough  times.                                                               
Alaska Housing  Finance Corporation has properties  there and the                                                               
housing  market has  remained  stable.   Slide  11 indicated  the                                                               
annual residential sales  activity in Anchorage is  down from the                                                               
peak in 2003; furthermore, he  cautioned that normal trends still                                                               
send  a  call  to  keep  economic indicators  in  mind,  such  as                                                               
unemployment, new  construction, heavy  construction, residential                                                               
construction,  consumer confidence,  and consumer  savings.   Mr.                                                               
Faust expressed his concern over  the lack of consumer confidence                                                               
and noted that AHFC launched  a statewide advertising campaign to                                                               
combat negative housing market news from the Lower 48.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:36:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN   BUTCHER,  Director,   Governmental  Relations   &  Public                                                               
Affairs,  Executive Office,  Alaska Housing  Finance Corporation,                                                               
in response  to Representative  Ramras, said  that the  "Built to                                                               
Last" ad campaign ran for six  months in the major markets of the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:37:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS spoke  of the  AHFC "first-time  homebuyer" courses                                                               
through  which  participants  can  earn a  credit  against  their                                                               
closing costs.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:37:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FAUST  affirmed that knowledge  about mortgages  makes people                                                               
better borrowers.   Slide  12 indicated the  number of  homes for                                                               
sale in  Anchorage is  "cooling" back  to more  historical norms.                                                               
Slide 13  indicated the average number  of market days to  sell a                                                               
home  in  Anchorage,  Mat-Su, Fairbanks,  Kenai,  and  Kodiak  is                                                               
increasing and is  a cause for some concern.   Slide 15 indicated                                                               
a decline in  annual residential building permit  activity from a                                                               
high of  1,039 permits issued  in 2002  to 225 permits  issued in                                                               
2008.  Mr. Faust stated the cause  for this decline is due to the                                                               
tightening of credit  from banks; in fact, builders  must own the                                                               
land to qualify for a speculative construction loan.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:41:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS   asked  for  a  comparison   of  Alaska's  current                                                               
foreclosure rate with the rate one or two years ago.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:41:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KAPANSKY observed for the last  year or two, there has been a                                                               
gradual upswing in  foreclosures, but not to  an alarming degree.                                                               
He  explained that  the rate  is gauged  on the  number of  loans                                                               
outstanding,  or   about  93,000   loans.    The   third  quarter                                                               
foreclosure rate  was 0.88  percent; one year  ago it  was around                                                               
0.5 percent.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:43:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FAUST  spoke  of  misleading  headlines  and  the  need  for                                                               
consumers to  examine the  true meaning  of percentages  that are                                                               
reported in  the news.   He then  noted that Alaska  will benefit                                                               
from $19.8  million of [federal]  stimulus money for  blighted or                                                               
foreclosed areas.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:44:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHENAULT  asked  for what  purpose  the  stimulus                                                               
money will be used.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:45:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUTCHER  advised there are  strict limitations on the  use of                                                               
the money; for  instance, it can not  be used to pay  down a loan                                                               
or to  help someone avoid  foreclosure.  The money  is designated                                                               
to  help foreclosed  and blighted  neighborhoods that  bring down                                                               
home  values in  adjacent  areas.   Fortunately,  this  is not  a                                                               
problem in  Alaska; however, the  limitations and  short deadline                                                               
may make it difficult for properties  in the state to qualify for                                                               
the money.  He described the  limitations on the use of the money                                                               
and other possible uses by non-profit organizations.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:48:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FAUST offered  to keep  the legislature  informed as  to the                                                               
projects AHFC submits for funding.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:48:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TUCK asked  how the  public finds  information on                                                               
mortgage assistance and safe mortgage lending.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:49:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FAUST suggested the classes  offered by AHFC, or contact with                                                               
a mortgage banker and realtor  can provide guidance.  Information                                                               
is also  on the  AHFC website; however,  the new  restrictions on                                                               
loans are working as checks and balances, he opined.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:50:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUTCHER added  that AHFC  encourages troubled  homeowners to                                                               
talk to  their bank  for options.   Also,  it was  just announced                                                               
J.P.  Morgan  and  Bank  of   America  Corporation  are  freezing                                                               
foreclosures at this time.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:51:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FAUST advised  that AHFC  has a  home and  credit counseling                                                               
service available.  Furthermore, if  there is a unique situation,                                                               
AHFC will work with the homeowner of a distressed property.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:53:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FAUST   continued  his  presentation  with   Slide  16  that                                                               
indicated  a  decline  in  the  number  of  residential  building                                                               
permits   for  Fairbanks   and  Juneau.     Regarding   apartment                                                               
vacancies,  the  national  average   is  10  percent;  Anchorage,                                                               
Juneau,  and  Wasilla/Palmer  were  in the  healthy  range  at  5                                                               
percent and  under, while  Kenai/Wasilla was  at 8.6  percent and                                                               
Fairbanks was high  at 21.2 percent.  Mr. Faust  pointed out that                                                               
mortgage interest rates  are projected to go down  well below the                                                               
average seen over the last 20 years.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:57:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOE  DUBLER,  Chief  Financial Officer/Finance  Director,  Alaska                                                               
Housing  Finance  Corporation, presented  Slide  23  that was  an                                                               
index of  highly rated  municipal securities.   He  explained the                                                               
slide describes the  difference in interest rates  for the London                                                               
Interbank  Offered Rate  (LIBOR), the  U.S. Treasury  (UST) rate,                                                               
and the  Municipal Market Data (MMD)  rate.  He pointed  out that                                                               
the UST  and LIBOR rates are  currently far below the  tax exempt                                                               
MMD rate  that is  available to AHFC.   Interestingly,  the LIBOR                                                               
rate has been  lower than it is  now 2.08 percent of  the last 10                                                               
years;  the  UST has been lower  2 percent of the  last 10 years;                                                               
and the MMD has been lower 47.02 percent of the last 10 years.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
6:00:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUBLER, in  response to Representative Ramras,  said that the                                                               
borrowing cost  to AHFC is currently  about 6 percent.   Slide 24                                                               
indicated AHFC's  tax exempt rate  is about 6.25 percent  and the                                                               
conventional market rate is about 5 percent.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:00:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FAUST,  in further response  to Representative  Ramras, noted                                                               
that the  federal government  is pumping money  in the  market at                                                               
4.25 percent and acknowledged that  there is no tax exempt market                                                               
at this  time and  AHFC is  "priced out."   However, AHFC  is not                                                               
shutting  programs  down and  has  the  capital to  continue  its                                                               
lending practices.   He  assured the  committee if  the situation                                                               
does  not improve  AHFC will  be making  adjustments.   Mr. Faust                                                               
stressed that  there must be a  market for AHFC to  act; in fact,                                                               
subsidies do  not make economic  sense at  this time either.   He                                                               
suggested that  bank re-finances are  up and Alaskans  are taking                                                               
advantage of  low rates; however,  his frustration is  for owners                                                               
that are "below  water," and are unable to re-finance  due to the                                                               
reduction in the market value of their homes.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:04:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUBLER added that AHFC has  the same structure it has had for                                                               
thirty years,  but it is affected  by the housing market  and the                                                               
government's efforts  to fix the  housing market by an  influx of                                                               
money that is driving the cost  of funds.  He predicted that AHFC                                                               
will  experience  many  re-finances  in the  next  six  to  eight                                                               
months.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:05:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FAUST provided the example  if AHFC gets many pre-pays, there                                                               
is the question of re-investing  the cash.  Also, the possibility                                                               
that AHFC  may be interested in  participation-loan programs with                                                               
banks.   These possibilities  are under  discussion if  credit is                                                               
needed to sustain  the real estate market in Alaska.   He advised                                                               
that  nationwide banks  are influenced  by national  problems and                                                               
this can also influence local banks.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
6:06:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUBLER  predicted that the  market will come  back eventually                                                               
and that AHFC will ride out the present conditions.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
6:07:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FAUST turned  to the subject of changes  in lending practices                                                               
and pointed out that eligible  borrowers have diminished 30 to 40                                                               
percent and loan investors and  mortgage insurance companies have                                                               
tightened  credit standards.   Higher  standards include;  higher                                                               
down  payments required;  higher  Fair  Isaac Corporation  (FICO)                                                               
scores required;   jumbo loan  financing limited; no  more exotic                                                               
loans;  and increased  fees and  no seller-financed  down payment                                                               
assistance on Federal Housing Authority (FHA) loans.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
6:08:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHENAULT  asked  about the  federal  government's                                                               
plan  on re-finances  and whether  loans will  be dropped,  terms                                                               
lengthened, or interest rates lowered.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
6:10:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FAUST  explained the  problem with  the economy  started with                                                               
the housing industry.   The collapse of Wall Street  was based on                                                               
mortgage-backed    securities   and    other   non-collateralized                                                               
investments.   He opined  that the housing  market must  be fixed                                                               
before   going  forward.     Furthermore,   the  destruction   of                                                               
neighborhoods must  be stopped to  save the value  of neighboring                                                               
homes and the homeowners' investments.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
6:12:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHENAULT pointed  out  speculation also  inflated                                                               
the market.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
6:13:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FAUST  stated that  he  does  not  see speculation  much  in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:13:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT  congratulated Mr.  Faust on  his prudent                                                               
lending practices.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
6:13:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUTCHER  informed the committee  that AHFC has  emphasized to                                                               
the Alaska  congressional delegation that the  federal government                                                               
must be very  careful in its attempts to fix  the problems of the                                                               
troubled states with "out there ideas."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:14:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FAUST displayed  Slide 27 and read, "one  percent decrease in                                                               
interest rates roughly  translates into a 10  percent increase in                                                               
homebuyer   purchasing  power."     Slide   28  indicated   state                                                               
demographers forecast  population growth  in Alaska will  mean an                                                               
increased  demand  for  housing;  in fact,  the  fastest  growing                                                               
segment of  Alaska's population is  seniors.  Slide  20 indicated                                                               
1.6 jobs are  needed to afford a single family  home.  Turning to                                                               
the subject of  loan volume, Mr. Faust said that  in FY 07 AHFC'S                                                               
loan volume was  2,808 loans totaling $565.7 million.   In FY 08,                                                               
AHFC's  loan  volume was  2,012  loans  totaling $493.5  million.                                                               
Projected through  FY 09 are  1,500 loans totaling  $368 million,                                                               
which is  a reduction  of 25  percent.   Slide 31  indicated that                                                               
private-sector  construction spending  was  down  12 percent  and                                                               
public-sector spending was up 16  percent.  He then compared home                                                               
values and home sales nationwide.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
6:18:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FAUST  began a  description of the  AHFC energy  programs and                                                               
said that the agency has  funded $200 million for weatherization;                                                               
$100 million for rebates; an  additional $60 million for rebates;                                                               
and  [funds for]  training  components for  both  programs.   The                                                               
previous weatherization program weatherized  600 homes; this year                                                               
that number  will triple to  1,800 homes and projections  are for                                                               
the  weatherization of  4,000 homes  in  the second  year of  the                                                               
program  and 7,500  homes in  the third  year.   The Home  Energy                                                               
Rebate  Program has  processed  6,212  ratings and  approximately                                                               
$58.9 million  is committed.   There are 150 to  200 applications                                                               
received  per day;  200  inquiries received  per  day; 349  post-                                                               
improvement rebates  have been paid  at an  average reimbursement                                                               
of  $5,941; and  162 new  "5 Star  Plus" rebates  have been  paid                                                               
totaling $1.2 million.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
6:19:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT observed that the  amount of the  average                                                               
post-improvement  rebate  is  one-half  of  what  was  originally                                                               
planned for each project.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
6:20:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUTCHER explained  that the original estimate  was an average                                                               
of $7,000 per home and this is the average still expected.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:20:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FAUST gave  the wait-lists  for six  sample communities  and                                                               
anticipated that  the next  bottleneck for  the programs  will be                                                               
finding contractors to do the recommended improvements.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:21:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUTCHER assured  the committee AHFC has  sufficient funds for                                                               
operations through FY 10.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
6:21:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHENAULT  asked  why  there  are  few  applicants                                                               
waiting for raters in Bethel and Dillingham.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:22:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUTCHER explained  a  lot has  to do  with  the shortage  of                                                               
raters, although  more roving raters  are available now  to serve                                                               
rural communities.  Also, a  higher percentage of rural residents                                                               
are interested in the weatherization program.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:22:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FAUST outlined the big picture  for the near future.  He said                                                               
that average home prices are  stable; home sale activity is down;                                                               
time on  the market  is up;  delinquencies are  low; foreclosures                                                               
are low; interest rates are  low; overall construction outlook is                                                               
good; new  home construction  is down;  additional $1  billion is                                                               
estimated  [from the  federal] stimulus  package; and  population                                                               
growth  is forecasted.   He  cautioned against  Alaskans "getting                                                               
sucked into the vortex in  the Lower 48" and encouraged residents                                                               
to have  consumer confidence.  Furthermore,  the stimulus funding                                                               
will be  analyzed for energy  money and AHFC will  be responsible                                                               
for a portion of this money.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:24:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS  encouraged AHFC  to present  this material                                                               
on its website and in other  forums because it is very helpful to                                                               
spread information so  that all know about the  general health of                                                               
the real estate market.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:25:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TUCK appreciated  the efforts  to keep  people in                                                               
their homes and to ensure poor lending practices do not return.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
6:26:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS observed that bank  stocks are down and construction                                                               
business  is down.   He  asked  what will  act as  a catalyst  to                                                               
increase residential construction in the Alaska market.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:27:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FAUST  opined that consumers  must have confidence  and banks                                                               
must also  have confidence.   Alaska Housing  Finance Corporation                                                               
is looking at properties that  are not performing adequately, and                                                               
at  valuable  properties that  need  rebuilt,  with the  idea  of                                                               
offering some assistance to banks  and keeping the market strong.                                                               
In addition, AHFC properties with  older buildings are better off                                                               
replaced  if they  are  on  valuable land,  such  as the  Loussac                                                               
public  housing  units  in Anchorage.    Alaska  Housing  Finance                                                               
Corporation has  900 homes in  inventory, which is  an acceptable                                                               
number.    He reminded  the  committee  that Alaska  has  pending                                                               
projects, such  as the  pipeline project,  and will  need housing                                                               
inventory in  the future.   Mr. Faust recommended AHFC  reach out                                                               
to commercial banks for partnering  opportunities and to continue                                                               
negotiating with local banks to help sustain lending activities.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:32:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS surmised that AHFC  is anticipating a portion of its                                                               
loans will  be re-financed and  create a surplus of  capital that                                                               
can be directed to partnerships with local and commercial banks.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:32:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FAUST  clarified,  in  that case,  AHFC  will  approach  the                                                               
governor and  the legislature  for direction of  its role  on the                                                               
housing side of the state's economy.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
6:32:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS assumed that another  avenue is re-gentrification of                                                               
properties in the AHFC portfolio throughout the state.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
6:33:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FAUST  agreed, and added  unless something  dramatic changes,                                                               
the  state is  vibrant, has  a  growing population  and a  strong                                                               
economy and must continue to invest in the   normal course.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
6:34:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS  thanked the  presenters  and  noted that    AHFC's                                                               
successful programs lead the nation by example.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
6:35:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Special Committee on Economic Development, International Trade                                                                  
and Tourism meeting was adjourned at 6:35 p.m.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
AHF-022_Housing_Trends_'09.ppt HEDT 2/17/2009 5:15:00 PM